New Hours for Reservations

Posted by cfz on January 6th, 2009
  • From the alaskaair.com e-mail:

    In an effort to improve customer service during peak times the hours of operation for Reservations will be condensed. Effective September 25, 2004, the 1-800-Alaskaair as well as our Mileage Plan GOLD/MVP and Partner Desk numbers will be available from 5:00 a.m. through 12 a.m. PT, 7 days a week. If you need assistance outside of these hours, please visit alaskaair.com.

    You got to cut costs somewhere but this seems slightly unusual. Many east coast flights head back to Seattle in the 8 a.m. hour. What if I need to change/make a reservation that morning?

    Any other thoughts?


  • I know Alaska has a web support chat, although I've only used it once. I wonder if they could expand the capabilities of this feature such that passengers could do a live chat with an agent online regarding flight info, upgrades, help getting rebooked etc. when the phone line is either unavailable or too busy.


  • There are NUMEROUS things you cannot do via the website.... plus, there have many times when the website was experiencing technical difficulties. There's been more than once when I've tried to purchase a last second web fare at 3 to 4am so I can grab that first morning flight... or even calling for flight loads and number of standby passengers if I needed to catch an early flight. Last thing I want to do is check out of my hotel and waste time driving to the airport in the wee-morning hours with no info if I can even make the flight. :(

    MISSY - I've given up on writing Alaska.... because they NEVER respond!! Due to the website being down for nearly a day and no one able to book, I ended up having to pay extra. Even the agent thought it was lousy, and told me what to write so AS could contact me. NO RESPONSE! It was only over $27, so I'm not going to spend hours chasing down AS.... but their lack of response tell me a lot. That's the 4th time I've written AS, and have never heard a peep back from them. I simply give up.

    It's just sad to watch AS go down this path. Now their customer service is BELOW par compared to the other majors. AS is starting to look more and more like SkyHigh.

    I'm not going to make a blanket statement and say I'll never fly AS again... because I likely will since I live in Seattle. However, I used to be very loyal to AS and would even pay extra to fly them. Now with all the cutbacks, AS encourages me to fly whoever is cheapest.

    I'll have to admit, that UA 777 ORD-SEA service in Business Class made me think, "Alaska who?"? :p


  • Since the fares change over at midnight I would think 12:00 - 1:00 am would be a popular time.


  • Keithguy- the 800-Alaskaair number IS general reservations. There will not be 24 hour availability in any of the reservation offices. There will be a small group of agents on duty to assist ticket counters, but the customer phone lines will be unavailable from midnight to 5am.

    Oops. My bad.

    Wow. This really does suck then... as mentioned, Alaska flies 24 hours a day...


  • I have been struggling for months with my commitment to AS. I love them and want to stay, but everything they do is driving me away. :confused:

    This is so sad. They must be in very desperate straits to be making such anti-customer decisions. Oddly, I am more comfortable with UA's straight up Chapter 11.


  • https://www.alaskaair.com/www2/ssl/help/ContactUsForm.asp?mailtoName=Reservations&mailtoEmail=Reservations@alaskaair.com


  • the web will still be available 24/7 :)


  • If AS is so desperate that it feels that cutting a few hundred dollars a day in salaries to cut out 24 hour service is necessary to help them survive, I am inclined to bail. :(

    I have also noticed that AS no longer provides prayer cards. Like them or not, they were important to AS, and now they are gone.

    Is AS sinking fast and totally desperate, or are they just dumber than dirt?


  • Agreed... I'll have to reconsider using AS for transcons if this is the case. While AS offering transcon service is a plus, it has come with too many negatives. On top of being stuck in cities due to the lone aircraft needing service, AS can't decide what type of airline it is. It claims to be premium although all we've seen lately is cuts... cuts now MUCH deeper than UA, AA, and other majors. Possible loss of first, and now no res desk when you NEED IT MOST!! Apparently they forgot they fly to the east coast! :rolleyes:


  • Isn't this the kind of thing that could even be done remotely?

    Yes, JetBlue's res agents work from home.


  • Just got back from the MVP Gold Lunch in GEG. I asked Ann Ardizone about this and of course, she mentioned that you could use the web for all your needs. I reminded her that if when you are faced with irregular ops, it would be quite difficult. She agreed, that it would not work for that either. Supposedly, they are going to have a line for us to call after hours for problems like this.


  • It would be fine if the AS MVP desk closes and instead of getting some lame message, they at least ask you to call the regular number. I called at 8:30 yesterday am to check on an upgrade to be told the desk was closed and that I should visit their website. Hard to do if you are not near a computer.

    I have not called the regular number in years, I have not a clue what it is. I called info and got it. Its now in my cell phone.

    Alaska -- why can't you just reroute MVP calls to the regular number if the desk is closed? :mad:

    lala


  • Bad move, AS. A nice compromise would have been keeping the Gold line open 24/7. And the partner desk being 24 hours has been absolutely critical to me in various backpacking trips when I'm off by 10-20 time zones.

    I am feeling very good about my decision to bail over to UA right about now. (That said, I hope I still feel as good about it in a year or two! :eek: )


  • the web will still be available 24/7 :)

    That doesn't help with the irregular ops situation, though.


  • If AS is so desperate that it feels that cutting a few hundred dollars a day in salaries to cut out 24 hour service is necessary to help them survive, I am inclined to bail. :(

    I have also noticed that AS no longer provides prayer cards. Like them or not, they were important to AS, and now they are gone.

    Is AS sinking fast and totally desperate, or are they just dumber than dirt?

    Not sure where to begin responding to this one, so I'll just say that I got a prayer card this past Sunday flying PDX-OAK. I can send it to you if you want it.


  • I misread the original post.


  • Maybe they are using the cards at the exec offices. This airline has really gone downhill...and fast.


  • Do any major competitors have less than 24 hour operations?

    In an era where companies are becoming more friendly to after hours business it does seem strange that Alaska is retreating. Stores, gas stations, and other places are all 24 hours. The odd thing is that Alaska flys red eyes and operates in multiple time zones that market themselves to all hours!

    I don't know what more to say, but this airline must really be on the verge of trouble. Look at all the "nickels and dimes" over the past several months and it does make you wonder what is next. True, the cost system at Alaska is out of control and the penny pinching on everything is creating chaos with passengers all over the place. Even the fare simplification was really a manipulated fare increase....while the high fares are no more, neither are the really low fares, making all fares in the middle, but it was sold differently.

    What is next for Alaska? This was an airline that used to have commericals that said "more for less" and mocked other airlines by having the nickel machine to use the bathroom. You know, at this point I would not be shocked if Alaska pulled something like this. I am saying that sarcastically, but it does make me really wonder.

    The missing link in all of this is the labor costs. Every other airline in America has asked for concessions or already has lower costs. Why is Alaska completely ignoring this option?

    Based upon the other changes I have already decided I am no longer loyal to Alaska. The competition sometimes has a better deal or a more convenient flight....like my planned family fight to San Jose coming up. Southwest has $28 less fares and that is $112 for the family.....now Alaska will argue it has matched the fares, but at 6am both ways....that doesn't work for me. This is just one example. East coast fares are always higher than the competition. It is really just too bad that Alaska is so blinded by the nickel and dime savings that it is making incredibly poor business decisions....incredibly poor business decisions do come around a pending crisis...so is one looming?


  • That doesn't help with the irregular ops situation, though.

    The web never has irregular ops :rolleyes: :mad: :td:


  • In an effort to improve customer service during peak times the hours of operation for Reservations will be condensed. Effective September 25, 2004, the 1-800-Alaskaair as well as our Mileage Plan GOLD/MVP and Partner Desk numbers will be available from 5:00 a.m. through 12 a.m. PT, 7 days a week.



    Keithguy- the 800-Alaskaair number IS general reservations. There will not be 24 hour availability in any of the reservation offices. There will be a small group of agents on duty to assist ticket counters, but the customer phone lines will be unavailable from midnight to 5am.


  • ..."in an effort to improve customer service...." yadda yadda yadda. How stupid do you think we are? Why not just be straight and say "in order to cut costs..." I get so sick of the P.R.-speak.

    Greyhound with wings....


  • Where's snake?

    In an effort to improve customer service during peak times the hours of operation for Reservations will be condensed. = You've been ENHANCED !!! :rolleyes:

    This is surreal- I used to think AS was the best way to get SEA-BOS, now I'm going to seriously reconsider using them- not being able to call in irregular ops is absolutely ridiculous. I'd rather connect on CO through EWR than not be able to call if I need to- out of all the idiotic things AS could do, what nimwits up there decided on this one???
    Unbelievably stupid.


  • It would be fine if the AS MVP desk closes and...they auto-forward your call or ask you to call the regular number.

    Agreed.

    Totally closing reservations for a period of five hours strikes me as both extreme and unwise. Some of AS' flights leave IAD, DCA, and BOS prior to 8am local time (which would be 5am Pacific), however at least those people can call up to 3am the morning of the flight for changes. But if a weather system hits overnight, when most folks are asleep, there is no way for them to try and proactively protect themselves prior to showing up at the airport. It's even worse for folks on AA codeshares, but at least they can call AA who is up 24/7.

    I don't know if having AA handle calls during those hours might not have been an option, as I am sure AS codeshares all those flights with AA. Might screw-up calling for upgrades, but at this point, you were at the mercy of the computers or the airport agents, anyway, so would it have mattered that AA's call center couldn't assign seating?

    AK-based fliers look to be okay, as they would have access from 3am (being two hours behind SEA) until 10pm. Looks like AS only runs a handful of midnight departures to LAX, LAS, SEA and ORD, and all of them leave at midnight so folks should be at the airport by then and can be serviced by airport agents.

    I am sure AS has looked at the cost of maintaining a staffed call center vs. the number of calls they get and determined that closing down the facility was the more cost-effective option. But it was not the most customer-effective option. I don't know how easy it would be for AS to implement "home-based" reservations (ala B6), but it might be something for them to consider to not only handle midnight to 5am Pacific operations, but general operations. That way, you don't have to worry about losing a call center to some natural (or unnatural) event, and you can make better use of your employees while reducing overhead.


  • Yes, I just read this 2 minutes ago and you beat me to the punch. Someone on the east coast with an issue at 7:30 am is SOL. This is chickenpoopoodoodookaka. ¿Are the redeye flights also going to piloted by alaskaair.com? Especially with the number of flights leaving AK in the middle of the night, and the transcon redeyes, this is dumb de dumb dumb dumb. I can just picture ANC at 1:00 AM on a night of horribly irregular ops, where the wise traveller would call, instead of waiting in line, for a reroute, rebooking, etc. and instead, with no open boardroom, and understaffed ticket counters and gate agents, wait in a lost sea of humanity for assistance as the flight he could have gotten on pulls away from a gate at 2:30 AM. This among other countless unpleasant hypotheticals.


  • Let's see, we've closed reservations from 12am - 5am PT....now it seems reasonable if you ONLY fly the west coast....but you don't....so those in Alaska and those on the east coast cities get screwed!

    This is just the latest in Alaska's nickel and dime game.

    The funny thing I find is that Alaska will do everything it can to reduce costs, except to the employees to reduce compensation, unlike nearly every one of its competitors.

    Now I do find that admirable...not reducing employees wages. But at the same time the leadership at Alaska is quickly developing an airline that is below the expected standard, and often now, below that of the competition.

    In my opinion, I think Alaska should call itself "Nickel and Dime Airways" as this is exactly where Alaska is now at.


  • AS has to do something to reduce costs. It sucks that it is this, but I don't see any other great options without diminishing the core of the 'Alaska Spirit' - the ground and inflight service employees.


  • It would also appear that they forgot that they fly in and out of Alaska. ANC looks like Times Square shortly after midnight.

    What on earth can they be thinking??????? How much can it cost to have a couple of agents working the res lines overnight? I doubt that the res agents are making huge amounts of money per hour. Isn't this the kind of thing that could even be done remotely?


  • I'm curious, which would be worse:

    Alaska outsourcing part of their reservations

    or

    Alaska closing res from midnight to 5am PT?


  • MISSY - I've given up on writing Alaska.... because they NEVER respond!! Due to the website being down for nearly a day and no one able to book, I ended up having to pay extra. Even the agent thought it was lousy, and told me what to write so AS could contact me. NO RESPONSE! It was only over $27, so I'm not going to spend hours chasing down AS.... but their lack of response tell me a lot. That's the 4th time I've written AS, and have never heard a peep back from them. I simply give up.




    Are you using the link from the website? I know that the office gets backed up with emails and letters so I would expect up to a 4-6 week lagtime for a response from them. But if you're not getting anything from them, I have to wonder if your email filter is blocking responses? I realize that you'd rather not spend anymore time dealing with the issue, but again if you haven't heard any response from 4 separate letters, I'd give them a call and find out if the response got booted back.


  • Nah, rjque, it is better for you to just go ahead and send it on to AS Headquarters. They obviously need it more than I. ;)







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